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All Upcoming Meets:

May 9-10 - Franklin, TN

Gentry Farm
1974 Hwy 96 W
Franklin, TN

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Third annual Middle Tennessee tag show and cruise-in at the Gentry Farm, 1974 Hwy 96 West in Franklin, about 15 miles south of Nashville. Hours Friday are 1:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. and Saturday from 7:00 a.m. to noon. Antique car cruise-in on Saturday. Take I-65 exit 65 and go west to square. Go around the square staying on Third Avenue, then left on Bridge Street (becomes Hwy 96 W). Gentry Farm is three miles south of McDonald’s on the west side of the road. Free admission. Please reserve tables in advance for $10 each. Contact Allen Gentry at (615) 794-4368, e-mail cindygentry@aol.com. (Ind.)

May 10 - Casper, WY

VFW Hall
1800 Bryan Stock Trail Road
Casper, WY

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Wyoming License Plate Society (WLPS) meet at the VFW, 1800 Bryan Stock Trail Road, from 9:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. We will have a guest speaker and many plates to buy, sell, or trade. Contact Steve Johnston, (307) 235-1051. (Ind.)

May 10 - Utica, OH

Larry Summers Residence
1270 Morgan Center Road
Utica, OH

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Second annual license plate extravaganza at the home and warehouse of Larry Summers, 1270 Morgan Center Road, 3 miles north of Utica on US-62 (Morgan Center Rd). From Cleveland area, follow I-71 south to Ohio 13 near Mansfield. Follow Ohio 13 south through Mt. Vernon and 11 miles further to Utica, then northeast on US-62. From Columbus, follow US-62 to Utica, then continue 3 miles straight to Larry’s home. Look for a big blue silo, and you're within 50 yards. Bring tables if you can. Indoor/outdoor, weather permitting. Hours Saturday 8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Early birds welcome to come on Friday from 1-6 p.m. RV parking available, or motels are nearby. Lunch provided Saturday at noon. You may return on Sunday to see an additional 10,000 midwestern plates with Larry Summers 20 miles north near Loudonville, or visit Joe Rich in nearby Perrysville to see his large collection of plates, pedal cars, oil cans, and other memorabilia. Please arrange these visits in advance if interested. Contact Larry Summers, (740) 892-2178 (home), (614) 579-6949 (cell), or Joe Rich, (321) 243-5459. (Ind.)

May 17 - San Jose, CA

Glen Davis Residence
6228 Tillamook Drive
San Jose, CA

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Gold Rush Region meet at 6228 Tillamook Drive, hosted by Glen Davis. Hours 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. Legislative plate awards for displays and single plates. Admission $10. Lunch provided. RSVP to Glen by May 11th so he can have a lunch for you. Phone (408) 578-2390, e-mail gotpl8s@comcast.net. Details also available from Scott Broady, e-mail meatypaws@earthlink.net.

May 17 - Springfield, MA

Springfield Elks Hall #61
440 Tiffany St
Springfield, MA

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Spring Colonial Region meet at a NEW location, Springfield Elks Hall #61, 440 Tiffany Street. Hours 8:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. This new hall is bigger, has plenty of tables, and should serve our needs for many years to come. Level loading access via ramp. Easy to find off I-91, exit 2. Breakfast and early lunch available. Contact Dave Kuehn, 12 Spring Street, Milford, CT 06460, phone (203) 877-8371 (home), (203) 877-1000 (office), or e-mail dkuehn@anray.com.

May 18 - Dallas, TX

Jeff Kaye Residence
5735 Farquhar Lane
Dallas, TX

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Spring Texas Region meet at the home of Jeff Kaye (address below) starting at 7:00 a.m. The site is on the near north side of Dallas, just off Dallas North Tollway. No fees! Complimentary sandwich lunch at noon with donation auction afterward. Awards for best display and longest distance traveled. Early arrivals are welcome to come by Saturday afternoon. A flyer with directions will be mailed to all Texas ALPCA members in April. Contact Jeff Kaye, 5735 Farquhar Lane, Dallas, TX 75209, (214) 729-4600, e-mail jeffkaye@aol.com. E-mail Jim Palmer for a flyer, jsp1779@earthlink.net.

May 31 - Wickenburg, AZ

Wickenburg Community Center
160 N. Valentine
Wickenburg, AZ

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Arizona License Plate Society meet at a new location: Wickenburg Community Center, 160 N. Valentine. This 4000 sq ft indoor site is one block from downtown. Hours 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Please do not arrive before 7:30. Lunch served at noon, followed by donation auction and business meeting. Awards for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for three display themes: “Arizona ‘til 1955,” “Arizona after 1956,” and “California” – 9 awards total. Registration $5 with RSVP before May 28, or $7 after. Unlimited free tables for sellers. Friday night pre-meet planned. Lodging 2 blocks away at Best Western Rancho Grande. Contact Clark Wothe, e-mail alpsclub@cox.net.

June 7 - Trexlertown, PA

Trexlertown (Goodwill) Fire Company
US-222 and PA-100
Trexlertown, PA

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June 7: Trexlertown, Pennsylvania 17th Annual Region #1 meet at the Trexlertown (Goodwill) Fire Company, Routes US 222 and PA 100, from 7:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Outdoor meet, rain or shine, no inside backup. Bring tables, chairs, etc; limited number of tables under covered pavilion. Registration is $4. Contact Walt Poposki, 3199 Brynwood Drive, Whitehall, PA 18052-4130, phone (610) 799-0585, e-mail SynusP@aol.com.

June 7 - Weldon, IA

Weldon Community Hall
101 1st St W
Weldon, IA

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3rd south central Iowa meet at Weldon Community Hall, 101 1st Street West, from 8:00 a.m. to about 2:00 p.m. Weldon is 11 miles southeast of Osceola (5 motels and Lakeside Casino/Resort), and 60 miles south of Des Moines. Come join us for a nice casual south Iowa day! Registration is $2. Donation auction. Contact J.D. Adams, (641) 443-2364, e-mail Sianomo2000@yahoo.com; or go to http://www.angelfire.com/ia3/alpca6313/southcentraliowameet.html (Ind.)

June 14 - Madison, SD

VFW Hall
510 S. Washington Ave.
Madison, SD

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Fifth annual Dakotaland License Plate Collectors Club meet at the VFW Hall, 510 S. Washington Ave., from 9:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. We now only will be having one annual meet. Donation auction at noon. Short business meeting and election of officers. No admission or table charge. Free noon barbecue. Contact Warren Kooiker, (605) 256-4137, or Harry Guthmiller, (605) 935-6413, e-mail hguthmiller@santel.net (Ind.)

July 5-6 - Butte, MT

Piccadilly Museum of Transportation
20 West Broadway Street
Butte, MT

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Meet at the Piccadilly Museum of Transportation, 20 West Broadway Street in historic Uptown Butte, the largest Landmark Historic District in the USA. Come early for the fireworks (July 3) and the best 4th of July parade in the northwest on Friday morning, July 4. A great stop on your way to the Salt Lake City ALPCA convention. Contact Jeff Francis, (727) 345-6627, e-mail gobucs13@aol.com, or Mike Glauboch, (406) 498-4865. (Ind.)

July 9-12 - Salt Lake City, UT

ALPCA 54th Annual International Convention. Details to be announced. City Sights of Salt Lake is a local tour company with professional guides. The company offers tours to over 500 points of interest in the Salt Lake City area. Their site is available at http://www.saltlakecitytours.org

July 26 - Bath, ME

Plate meet at 8:30 a.m. in the field in front of the house just before radio station WJTO. Free admission. Beautiful waterfront location; 220 acres of private hiking trails here in Vacationland, so bring the family. Barbeque hot dogs & burgers at 11:00 a.m. From I-295, take route 1 from Brunswick, Maine for 8 miles to "Congress Av - Richardson St" exit (after big "Bath - City of Ships" sign), very sharp right like a U-turn, proceed about a half-mile and turn left on Berry’s Mill Rd. Go 1.8 miles and turn left on Austin Road; go to the end and up the little hill. Rain or shine; if raining, meet will be inside the house. Contact Bob Bittner, jibguy@aol.com. On day of and day before meet, you may call (207) 442-0647 or cell (617) 281-7400. (Ind.)

August 9 - Prescott, AZ

Yavapai County Jeep Posse Hall
1200 Commerce Street
Prescott, AZ

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Arizona License Plate Society meet at the Yavapai County Jeep Posse Hall, 1200 Commerce St (Pioneer Park–same as previous years). Hours 8:00 am to 4:00 pm; please do not arrive before 7:30. Lunch served at noon. Awards for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for the display category “Colors,” plus long distance award. Registration $5 with RSVP before Aug 6, or $7 after. Contact Clark Wothe, e-mail alpsclub@cox.net.

August 16 - San Francisco, CA

Golden Gate Park, County Fair Building
9th Ave and Lincoln Way
San Francisco, CA

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The Signature Gold Rush Regional meet of the year, in the County Fair Building at Golden Gate Park, 9th Ave & Lincoln Way, from 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. The meet is within easy walking distance of the Botanical Gardens, DeYoung Museum, SF Aquarium and Japanese Tea Garden. Dozens of restaurants within a block’s walk. The light rail train with access to downtown SF is a block from the meet. Legislative plate awards for displays and single plates. We are also planning to have special San Francisco souvenir plates available. Look for details in future issues of Plates Magazine. Contact Scott Broady, (415) 665-7297, e-mail meatypaws@earthlink.net.

August 23 - Arcadia, CA

Arcadia Community Center
365 Campus Drive
Arcadia, CA

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Southern California Region meet at Arcadia Community Center, 365 Campus Drive, two miles east of Pasadena, from 8:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Admission of $10 for members and $5 for guests includes donuts, coffee, lunch, and Tag-a-Long newsletter. Plenty of room for trading and displays. Tables and chairs provided. Displays encouraged, theme is open, so “bring what you got.” Donation auction after lunch and the meeting. Contact Shanna or Scott Burkholder, (626) 358-4010, e-mail PlateDad3@aol.com.

August 29-30 - Golden, CO

Jefferson County Fairgrounds
15200 W. 6th Ave
Golden, CO

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34th annual Rocky Mountain Region meet at Jefferson County Fairgrounds, 15200 W. 6th Ave. from 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. on Friday and from 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. on Saturday. Tables $5 each. Food on site. Lodging within 1 mile. Always 100+ attendees! Awards for long distance, best plate, and 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for best display. Donation auction Saturday at 11:30. Contact Ron Yaeger, (303) 465-0409, e-mail rjy1951@aol.com, or Kevin Murray (303) 280-3649, e-mail kmurray@peakpeak.com.

August 29 - September 1 - Winnipeg, MB

Thirsty's World Antiques and Collectibles Emporium
1111 Ellice Ave.
Winnipeg, MB

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Second annual “Heart of North America” license plate event. Contact George Chartrand, Box 334, Winnipeg, MB R3C 2H6; e-mail georgechartrand@hotmail.com (Ind.)

August 30 - Joliet, IL

American Legion Hall
705 S. Larkin
Joliet, IL

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MidAmerica Plate Association (MAPA) Meet at the American Legion Hall, 705 S. Larkin (I-80 and Ill. route 7) from 8:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Donation auction at 11:00 a.m. Admission is $5 and tables $5 each. Bring displays! Awards for first and second best of show, favorite plate, and longest distance traveled. Fast food and shopping five minutes away. Contact Les Okunowski at (847) 692-4129.

August 30 - Levis, QC

Daniel Frachon Residence
1130 Charles Rodrigue St
Levis, QC

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First ever plate meeting on the south shore of Quebec City, at the condo complex of Daniel Frachon, 1130 Charles Rodrigue St, from 8:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Come enjoy a nice weekend in the old town, see antique shops, and help make a successful meet with collector friends. Motels, campground, and good restaurants within one mile. Take TC-20 east to exit 325 north. Go across overpass, turn left at light and go straight (you'll see WalMart). After 2nd stop sign, building is on the left. Dial 204 to be let in to third floor; easy unload ramp and elevator. Parking in rear. Free admission; tables $4. Coffee and donuts served. Long distance award. Contact Daniel Frachon, (418) 835-9084, e-mail danielfrachon@hotmail.com. (Ind.)

September 6 - Yorktown Heights, NY

First Presbyterian Church
2880 Crompond Road
Yorktown Heights, NY

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Colonial Region summer meet at the First Presbyterian Church, 2880 Crompond Rd. (Route 202), from 8:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. From Taconic Parkway take NY Route 202 east and proceed about ½ mile. The church is on the left at the corner of routes 202 and 132. Contact Walter Oudheusden at (914) 245-0083, or Roy Rich at (914) 941-1971.

September 13 - Jonesboro, LA

McDonald Memorial Recreation Center
524 Jeffress Street
Jonesboro, LA

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17th annual Jonesboro meet at the McDonald Memorial Recreation Center, just off U.S. Hwy 167, at 524 Jeffress Street, from 7:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. No registration or table fee. Donation auction to cover expenses. Award for best display. Contact Don Stephens at (318) 259-3968, e-mail dls1565@bellsouth.net. (Ind.)

September 20 - Tomah, WI

Knights of Columbus Hall
202 E. Juneau Street
Tomah, WI

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Dairyland region fall meet at Knights of Columbus Hall, 202 E. Juneau Street, from 8:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Registration of $4 includes table; $2 for walk-ins. Please bring table covers. Display awards for people's choice, best of show, junior, and favorite plate. Complementary coffee, rolls, soda, and lunch. Donation auction after lunch. Also election of officers. Contact Duane Lueck, (608) 372-4223, e-mail duadon@centurytel.net; or Mike Swanson, (262) 763-6124.

September 20 - Tucson, AZ

Rincon Country Mobile Park
3411 South Camino Seco
Tucson, AZ

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Arizona License Plate Society meet at the Rincon Country Mobile Park, 3411 South Camino Seco. Hours 8:00 am to 4:00 pm; please do not arrive before 7:30. Lunch served at noon. Awards for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for display category “Plates from the 1960’s,” plus long distance award. Registration $5 with RSVP before Sept 17, or $7 after. Contact Clark Wothe, e-mail alpsclub@cox.net.

September 26-27 - Paso Robles, CA

California Mid-State Fairgrounds
2198 Riverside Avenue
Paso Robles, CA

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Combined SoCal and Gold Rush Region meet at the California Mid-State Fairgrounds, 2198 Riverside Avenue. More details to follow. Contact Scott Broady, (415) 665-7297, e-mail meatypaws@earthlink.net, or John Boal, (909) 215-0589, e-mail calpl8z@boal.net.

September 27 - Barboursville, WV

Barboursville City Park
Barboursville, WV

Second annual meet at Barboursville City Park, Shelter 9, starting at 8:00 a.m. From I-64 eastbound, take West Mall Road; from I-64 westbound, take East Mall Road. Follow the signs to US 60 and turn right. Go about a mile, turn left under the viaduct just past Adams Trucking. Continue to Main Street and turn left. Go to 4-way stop and turn left, proceed to city park. Shelter 9 is closest to bathrooms and parking lot. Nearby motels, shopping, restaurants. Admission $5 per table. Donation auction at 11. Cook-out at lunch. Contact Josh Husiar at (304) 360-7804 or e-mail alpca9811@yahoo.com (Ind.)

October 11 - Nebraska City, NE

Eagles Lodge
600 First Corso
Nebraska City, NE

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15th annual Heartland Region meet at Eagles Lodge Hall, 600 First Corso (Two Blocks east of 2004 site), from 7:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. Please do not arrive before 7 a.m. Nebraska City is 50 miles south of Omaha/Council Bluffs or 75 miles north of St. Joseph, MO on I-29 (Iowa exit 10 for IA 2). This is a larger hall with plenty of table space. Display awards for first and second place, favorite plate; also long distance award. Souvenir plates available. Business meeting/donation auction/election of officers around noon. Admission $8 includes membership in the region for a year. Contact J.D. Adams, (641) 443-2364, e-mail Sianomo2000@yahoo.com; or go to http://www.angelfire.com/ia2/alpcaheartland/index.html

October 18 - Annandale, VA

United Baptist Church of Annandale
7100 Columbia Pike
Annandale, VA

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Sixth annual Don Pendleton Memorial meet and auction at United Baptist Church of Annandale, 7100 Columbia Pike, from 8:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Venue is at the corner of Columbia Pike and Chatelain, just west of Gallows Road, three miles from I-395 at Route 236 (Little River Turnpike), and 1.5 miles from I-495 at Route 236. Columbia Pike is one block off Little River Turnpike. $10 per person includes one table; walk-ins (no table) are $5. Displays welcome. Contact John or Joyce Reed, (703) 491-2852 (home), or (703) 919-8092 (cell), e-mail cow.girl@comcast.net. (Ind.)

October 18 - Joliet, IL

American Legion Hall
705 S. Larkin
Joliet, IL

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MidAmerica Plate Association (MAPA) Meet at the American Legion Hall, 705 S. Larkin (I-80 and Ill. route 7) from 8:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Donation auction at 11:00 a.m. Admission is $5 and tables $5 each. Bring displays! Awards for first and second best of show, favorite plate, and longest distance traveled. Fast food and shopping five minutes away. Contact Les Okunowski at (847) 692-4129.

October 18 - Springfield, MA

Springfield Elks Hall #61
440 Tiffany St
Springfield, MA

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NOTE DATE CHANGE! Fall Colonial Region meet at a NEW location, Springfield Elks Hall #61, 440 Tiffany Street. Hours 8:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. This new hall is bigger, has plenty of tables, and should serve our needs for many years to come. Level loading access via ramp. Easy to find off I-91, exit 2. Breakfast and early lunch available. Contact Dave Kuehn, 12 Spring Street, Milford, CT 06460, phone (203) 877-8371 (home), (203) 877-1000 (office), or e-mail dkuehn@anray.com.

October 18 - Sylmar, CA

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Fall SoCal region meet at the home of a non-ALPCA member in the greater LA area, 13471 Gladstone Ave in Sylmar. Display theme will be Birthyear Run. Admission $10 for members, $5 for guests. Contact host Rob Tyler, (818) 248-6540, or John Boal, (909) 215-0589, e-mail calpl8z@boal.net.

October 19 - Parma, OH

Parma Memorial Hall
6617 Ridge Road
Parma, OH

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37th annual Ohio Region fall meet at Parma Memorial Hall, 6617 Ridge Road at Ridgewood Drive in Parma (near Cleveland), starting at 8:00 a.m. The hall is across from Parmatown Mall, south of Cleveland. Easy access from I-480. Same site as past years. Contact Chuck Sakryd & Cyndi McCabe, 292 Windward Dr., Elyria, OH 44035, phone (440) 366-0057 or e-mail chsakryd@aol.com.

October 25 - Grimsby, ON

St. Andrew's Church
7 St. Andrews Ave
Grimsby, ON

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Sixth annual 'Tinchasers' meet at a new location, St. Andrew's Church, 7 St. Andrews Ave in Grimsby, from 8:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Admission $5, tables $5, spouses and kids free. Displays welcomed and enjoyed. Parking close to entrance. Follow QEW to Grimsby exit #71 to Christie St. and turn south, then right on Elm St. Church is on the right about 5 blocks ahead. Hall is behind church. Contact Don Goodfellow, (905) 562-6840 or Sam Samis, (519) 243-2427. (Ind.)

October 25 - Sandy, UT

Larry H. Miller Entrepreneurship Training Center
9750 S. 300 W.
Sandy, UT

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Utah, This Is The Place Region fall meet at the Larry H. Miller Entrepreneurship Training Center, 9750 S. 300 W. in Sandy. Hours 8:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. Admission $8 for members and $5 for guests. Tables available first come, first serve. Souvenir plates available for those who pre-register. Please pre-register to be guaranteed your plate. For questions or pre-registration, contact Alan Weston at (801) 550-8774, e-mail weston68@comcast.net; or Mark Coolidge, e-mail mark@mvls.net. Visit www.alpcautah.org. Hope to see you.

November 1 - Danville, IN

Hendricks County Fairgrounds Community Bldg
955 E Main St
Danville, IN

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28th Annual Hoosier State Region meet at the new Hendricks County Fairgrounds Community Building (one mile east of old location) from 8:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. Site is on old US 36, two miles east of Danville. Admission is $5, and tables are $5 each. Awards for best Indiana and non-Indiana displays, long distance, the Lloyd Chism Memorial best plate award, plus door prizes. Over the past 20 years we have been one of the largest single-day meets, so come join us for a great time! Contact Chuck Bahor at (317) 875-9858, e-mail chuckba@localnet.com.

November 2 - Lawrence, KS

Eagles Lodge
1803 W 6th St
Lawrence, KS

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Announcing new location! Annual fall Kansas License Plate Collectors Assn (KLPCA) meet at the Eagles Lodge, 1803 W. 6th St. in Lawrence. Hours 7:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. (Sunday meet). Lunch served by the Eagles Ladies Auxiliary. Free admission. Tables $5 each to non-members of KLPCA; free to members. Donation auction. Awards. Food on site. Door prizes: First prize $50, 2nd prize $25, 3rd prize $10. Contact Jack or Lynda Walker at (423) 338-1903, e-mail lynda.walker@mindspring.com. (Ind.)

November 8 - Chandler, AZ

San-Tan Mobile Park
15802 South Gilbert Road
Chandler, AZ

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Arizona License Plate Society year-end meet and BBQ at San-Tan Mobile Park, 15802 South Gilbert Road, hosted by Sam Guthrie. Hours 8:00 am to 4:00 pm; please do not arrive before 7:30. Lunch served at noon. Awards for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for the display theme “Frames and Booster plates,” plus long distance award. Don’t forget the Greg “ZEKE” Donaldson Award for the favorite single plate; bring one and tell why it is your favorite. Registration $5 with RSVP before Nov 5, or $7 after. For local lodging options, contact Clark Wothe, e-mail alpsclub@cox.net.

November 15 - Woodcliff Lake, NJ

Woodcliff Lake Community Center
411 Chestnut Ridge Road
Woodcliff Lake, NJ

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Meet at Woodcliff Lake Community Center, 411 Chestnut Ridge Rd, in front of the Tice Corner Mall. Access the venue from Exit 172 off the Garden State Parkway. Hours 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. Please e-mail for a flyer. Contact Justin Mattes, (201) 391-7606, e-mail jaymatt1978@optonline.net, or Marco Tramelli, (914) 862-2178, e-mail mtramelli@optonline.net. Visit our web site: http://www.alpcaregion1.org/ (Ind.)

November 22 - Northern California, CA

TBA
Northern California, CA

Gold Rush Region meet, location to be announced. Hours 9:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. Legislative plate awards for displays and single plates. Admission $10. Contact Scott Broady, (415) 665-7297, e-mail meatypaws@earthlink.net